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Chuck-you must live in Madison Wisconsin because you have described the down town Madison that I live in and see every day.

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And one wonders why our Mayor Damon wants the board of Public works to handle the vote on EDP, ( JCIDC ) $ 80,000.00 funding. Cause he is on that board, its a 3 person board, and it will make it much easier to pass that way. It will pass with flying colors. And while we are on the subject of the " Showboat " lets have Whitney prepare a sales graph of each business on Main St showing their sales per month in 2014. You will see massive drop offs in October, Nov, Jan, Feb, March, & April unless your just serving food.

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Please excuse my ignorance but I thought the state took that project in exchange for the city doing road maintenance. Mr. Flints work was to start the EIS for the approach. Am I right or am I confused ? IMO this looks very similar to funding JCIDC. Where are the invoices and Mr. Cook's response to Greves' question is misleading and inconclusive. The question was, where is the money coming from? The proper and accurate response is " the taxpayers". He didn't ask if you had money Mr. Cook he asked where it came from. Thank you Mr. Greves for at least asking the question. Perhaps in the future you could press for a more accurate response.

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Saw the report in the paper today about yesterday Board of Works meeting which I attended. One important item was left out. The City has entered into basically a 4 year contract with Mike Flynt (Flynt Group) for continued Gateway project work.

In the past his group was paid $150 per hour but now it is up to $200 per hour. Maximum per year is $25,000. That would be $100,000 if it is renewed every year for the total 4 years.

Mr. Greves did ask Bob Cooke about where the money was coming from...Cooke's reply, we have the money.


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not that i'm in favor of the showboat or anything, but i can see it possibly doing better here in madison than in cincy. they might have 2 million+ people, but many of them live in poverty. they are homeless and can't afford to eat, let alone go to a theater performance on a showboat. we don't have that issue here. aside from that, cincy has a lot of younger people who would rather go to a bar or club than a theater. the older population here in madison would be more into the showboat kind of thing.

Admin reply: Surely with the Ohio Theater being only to fill 10 or 15 seats at a time or the play theater on Main not doing much better there might be a few people left to fill Linda's and Andrew's no float boat.

No poor people here -- poor people don't fill theater seats anyway. I suppose people from Milton or Brooksburg are going to fill the 200 plus seats on the showboat - wait there are only 15 people in Milton or Brooksburg who can afford the price. But wait a minute we will fill all those seats with tourist attracted to Andrews popcorn alley

Out of the 12K population in Madison we may come up with one or two old people who would attend or could afford the ticket price. With the cost to maintain this thing if it ever happened the ticket price would be astronomical.


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Can anyone that went to that candidate forum last night share any insight into anything meaningful or was it the usual hot air? Anything newsworthy? I figure someone here will tell me more than I'll find out in the paper today.

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There is a legitimate reason the city of Cincinnati is eager to offer this boat to Madison, to anybody. There are no renters any longer in a city their size that wants it. Being water based effectively closes the venue for several months a year. A floating venue is very expensive to operate and very unpredictable. The company that rented it from Cincinnati went to a land based operation because out of all the customer base Cincinnati and surrounding area offers, they could no longer make it on the water. Bring it to Madison and it will surely sink the investors. Let's hope and pray that is not the taxpayers.

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They are NOT TRYING to pull the wool over the taxpayers eyes, ( They have been doing it for many decades and they do it week after week. Its normal business practice for them and they put the taxpayers on the hook. ) There are so many people involved I am not sure we could list them in this comment block. This is why its so important to show the facts, the truth, be transparent, show the numbers, so us taxpayers can really understand the money trail and what is going on in our town with our City & County Government. This boat is a horrific tax burden and yet another money pit with no chance for a return on investment. If the ones who are pushing this " Showboat " why don't they buy it and pay the tab on their dime, not the taxpayers dime ????

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To Larry Wynn - thanks a bunch for sharing the facts even when they're not very pretty.good to know someone in county government is watching over things and doing the due diligence. I think we're gonna miss you at the council table . I for one wish you'd decided to run again. It's about time politicians started sharing the facts with the public instead of pretending everything's just peachy.

The truth is either Forestor, Linda Lyrle and whoever are liars and are trying to pull the wool over the taxpayers eyes or they did a plain ole cra-ppy job and didn't bother to research it. Anyway thanks for saving us from another hair brain scheme .


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Assume that anything which says "arts" will cost taxpayers money.

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