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“To oppose corruption in government is the highest obligation of patriotism.”



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This Christmas I'm asking Santa for a brand, new smart Democrat complete with accessories like honesty, public speaking skills, the ability to keep to a promise and play with everyone. I'd also like to get the super pack attachment that includes big intelligence and a broad base of knowledge when it comes to budgeting, spending and employee oversight. It'll come in handy when firing Andrew, Cook and Johnson.

Its probably too much to wish for but I would like to get the entire new Democrat mayor set which includes a special voice program that says no to the old guard people who want tax payers to fund their personal projects and laughs at JCIDC and the Gang of 8.


Added: November 25, 2014
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p2 : I appreciate the fact you have had excellent personal experience with Amatrol units at Ivy Tech & for that reason I see no reason to duplicate the simulators in the high school. I also congratulate you for continuing your education at Ivy Tech State College. I'm pleased you have a job you believe pays well for you. You ask why people dont see duplicating the same equipment at the high school that's in use at Ivy Tech as a good idea. The answer seems obvious when you measure the distance & time it takes to travel from the high school to Ivy Tech. In addition, I prefer future citizens have a more well rounded education that opens many doors & does not force one into a skilled labor position with little to few options otherwise. Ivy Tech simply opens more doors & provides more opportunity for students who prefer skilled trades. Their teachers & professors are qualified in adult education & engage with area industry far beyond what our high school could ever afford to do. So when speaking about opportunity, I want to speak about the best opportunity possible for our students not whats best for local businesses.

There is no doubt science training paths pay higher than traditional liberal arts programs. I'm not sure what article you read, perhaps if you posted the journal name & date others might learn as you have. I'm not doubting your honesty, but simply would like to see the information you reference so that I can better understand your point. I would be surprised to see any data indicating high school trained, entry level trades persons earn more than entry level college graduates in the same field. In actuality you compared a STEM program of unknown focus with a bachelor of arts. Perhaps your source is comparing the salaries of students who have done something similar as interning with Dow Corning & advancing to a tech position verses a student with a degree in art or music appreciation.

Finally, training is irrelevant unless the person is willing to locate high paying jobs. If one wishes to stay in this community & not commute, that person will find local wages well below national & state averages regardless of degree or training. Employers set the wages not students. So the idea that well trained students will get better paying jobs in the local market is not logical. Even if someone is well trained, prepared & deserves better wages, this community is recognized for its overall LOW wages not the opposite. The addition of any program at the high school will not change industry wages- only industry can do that.


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Jeff: a science center is not a dumbing down of students & as you've pointed out it does provide a viable alternative to college. Many students can not afford college, dont have the grades or skills to manage a college curriculum or simply do not want to pursue an advanced education. But I agree that students should not be "lead" or forced into a particular education path because local industry doesn't want to pay the wages necessary to recruit qualified labor to our area.

Ivy Tech presents a great alternative to traditional, expensive, time consuming 4 year degree programs as do area dental assistant, journey man programs & other better paying career choices. High School should be preparation in life skills, standard education curriculums & prep for placement in successful internship programs, admission to college or trade schools. High School students should NOT be a base of cheap labor from which local industry are encouraged to pull employees. Nor should schools be a special interests individualized self directed, publicly funded training program. Businesses, including local industry are obligated to train their own employees, not the tax payer.


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I'm not sure I would look at the Science and Technology Center issue as a "dumbing down" of our students. I personally have used several of the Amatrol units/simulators at Ivy Tech and can honestly say they prepare the user/student with the necessary skills for introduction into skilled trades.

Because of my experiance with the Amatrol trainers, I now have a very good career in a skilled trade locally. Why can't people look at this opportunity as giving students the competitive edge in which employers will have to pay higher wages for those trained in skilled trades?

Also, just yesterday, I read an article on STEM and it's benefits for students that don't want a AS, BA or MA. On average, a student that focused on STEM (without a degree), earned 15-25% more than an equal in the same position that holds a minimum of a BA.

While I do believe pushing and preparing our children/students to higher education, this is either not an option or not suitable to some and we therefore need to give our student's other avenues.

Amatrol is a great program....STEM is a great program....let it work for the student and I believe you'll see better wages and working conditions soon follow.


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Dear Rude:

Maybe your invitation to Mindys announcement party is lost in the mail with all Georings ballots. Maybe you should call democrat headquarters and check.


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Some people are mad because Mindy looked like a fool with her announcement to announce. Some think if she can't manage something as simple as getting a good picture of herself in the paper that she sure as heck won't be able to manage the city. Certain groups are all focused on this Wallace thing or her not stepping down as repub chair.

Nobody's said so yet, but if Mindy is serious about change she should've been that way out of the gate instead she just talked about change and turned around and did exactly the same old stuff right from the get go. The paper said something about a party. But I didn't get my invitation, did you? Sounds to me like like Mindy decided she wanted everyone to know but didn't want to invite everyone. It's the same old same old but with the new candidate. We've all seen an arrogant fool publicly announce he and now she wants a public office but then turns around and ignores the public.


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Whoever is helping Mindy needs to get their heads out of the sand and tell her to resign as county chair. The party chair has access to all sorts of info including donors and important contacts not to mention access to emails, phones and addresses. Its unethical for her to use her position to further her campaign. Hopefully if Wallace is involved he will tell her to step down asap. If I were Welch Id be screaming foul play and standing on some statement that maybe did or didnt speak for itself but made clear Mindy is just as unethical as he is. Since its a tie on bad ethics and low smarts that leaves boy versus girl voters. Not many old bitties will vote Mindy even if they dont like Welcher.

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Just looked at the info that was posted. Page 4 uses Vision Quest as a data source! Yes..the Industry Boys bought and paid for "community plan." Then again, Huffman was ECO-15 run by the Good Olde Boys and got with MCS because of that (She was treasure of the YES MCS political group too.) JCIDC is the Good Old Boys. Eco-15 now is Good Old Boys..Mayor Welch is a Good Old Boys Puppet..and hear that School Board member LaCour met with the Good Old Boys while running for election and they backed her. So..this has Good Old Boys written all over it. Nothing like total control so the school can turn our worker drones for them.

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Just received this.

NOTICE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THE BOARD OF SCHOOL TRUSTEES

THE BOARD OF SCHOOL TRUSTEES OF MADISON CONSOLIDATED SCHOOLS WILL CONDUCT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2014, 6:30 P.M., AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 2421 WILSON AVENUE, MADISON, INDIANA, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE FOLLOWING TOPIC(S):

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I for one am tired of playing politics. It is becoming obvious to anyone who is remotely paying attention that Ms. McGee has been orchestrating this move for quite some time. I considered it odd when she read her statement before the council berating them on their lack of action concerning JCIDC, but it is beginning to make more sense. That prepared statement was nothing more than a cheap display of false concern for the anti-JCIDC group. Nothing like waiting for the final buzzer before hollering foul.

I am a little disappointed in John. If he wants to be the McGee spokesperson I guess that's his business. There have been folks who have lent their coattails to people and ended up without a coat. Even John can't pull dead weight without being slowed down a bit.


Added: November 24, 2014
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